Anony Mous

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  Consequences for actions. A high fat / sugary diet

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i want to illustrate my point about where many x-jws go wrong.

  to illustrate, imagine a morbidly obese person goes on a calorie restricted diet.

  subsequently he loses the excess calories and his health improves.

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  Anony Mous

  It depends on the restrictions and their motives. You are talking from the assumption that because you can find some good in a set of rules, that all the rules are making sense or that some rules maybe have a desired outcome, therefore the rule is inherently good.

  As other people point out, there are other Christian and non-Christians that RECOMMEND the same set of rules, they do not REQUIRE the rules.

  For example, smoking weed or talking to people that do “bad” things, has a strict rule in the JW org because they do not want you socializing with people at large and bring bad advertisement to the organization, not because they care for your health or safety, because that is belied by other rules (blood, field circus etc). If you can’t smoke because it may kill you but you can’t also save your life in an acute situation, those rules contradict each other logically and morally.
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  Kingdom Hall Insurance

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  that the wt "self insures" kingdom halls has come up in occasional conversations on here.

  how exactly does that work?

  do they* actually set aside a portion of the monthly remittance from each kingdom hall and save into a pool to cover damage etc.

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  Anony Mous

  Self insurance isn’t exactly a bad model but yes, the WTBTS abuses it. They do not pay for insurance but sure will claim government payouts in case of natural disasters and the like. And yes, when damages happen, there will be a call for donation for the repair, which often is met and then completed with free labor.
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  Dating in the KH-funny stories.

  by QuestioningEverything in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my 28y old nephew was dating a 'sister' from another congregation.

  he recently bought his own home.

  i stopped by there to drop off something.

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  Anony Mous

  With my first wife, we had some great chaperones as well, the first time we were together they basically dropped us off at the mall and told us not to do anything too bad, one time her mother made her ‘worldly’ sister chaperone us at home she basically said - you guys do whatever you want once the mother had left for work. I spent the night at my cousins home that also was worldly, same “you want to sleep together, awesome”. I arranged one time for a tourist spot that we ‘missed the last train’ and we didn’t ‘stay in the train station for the first train’ and the hotels were all full (but there are other places besides hotels, I remember a very squeaky metal bed above a bar).

  One girl I dated for a summer after that we ended up meeting behind her grandparents house in a cemetery on a nightly basis. My second wife was slightly more strict, but by then I was more adult so I had my own place and we both had jobs that we did lots of ‘overtime’ (unpaid lol).
  
  Actually dating ‘worldly’ people, I think was much more behaved than JWs. You set boundaries on when, what and where on the first date. JWs just bring so much attention to it it becomes exciting and taboo to the point you try to find a spot to ‘experiment’ any chance you get.
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  How has 3 years of inflation affected WTC?

  by ThomasMore in

  1. social
  2. current

  the current u.s. administration and the fed says inflation is hard to tame.

  it was over 9% at it's peak.

  one of the greatest increases is price of food, something that everyone feels to some extent.

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  Anony Mous

  You’d think they have enough money with all the stuff they have been collecting and not spending. Also, inflation compounds and is still at 4-5%, food inflation was higher than 9%, it went to 15% in one month, whereas overall inflation came to 30% in the past 3.5 years, food inflation has gone over 50% in the same time period.

  I thought these days they were using temporary workers that have to bring their own because of it.
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  WTS NEW USE OF TECHNOLOGICAL, SATELLITE ACCESS

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://freshangleng.com/34262/how-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witnesses-are-making-content-available-to-people-with-limited-or-no-internet-access .

  satellite and others for those who cannot access internet!

  spread the word (ha).

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  Anony Mous

  They are paying for them. That is how the WTBTS works, the congregation is told what it costs and must raise that amount of money, then that goes towards the World Wide Work and is earmarked so the branch knows what they ‘purchased’. If you cannot or do not raise the amount of money, then you don’t get the equipment. And that is true for everything, the projectors/TV, the audio equipment, chairs, lecterns and table on the stage, they all have a price tag, you want it, there is a price list. Even the publications had a price tag, despite the donation, internally they handle a price list which must come from donation, if you didn’t provide the money (I was in a poor black inner city congregation, donations to the WWW averaged $1000/month for 120 publishers), your literature counter would be frequently out of stock for things like bibles, while you could go to another congregation and find they got boxes with the stuff every month.

  Again, I have seen the accounting, I was doing it and this was part of my awakening, the previous brother that did the job had also left “for apostasy” and so was my assistant recently reinstated after he had been running accounts before that (I assume he came back for his family). If you ever want to wake up honest hearted people, make them do accounts at the Kingdom Hall, RBC or Conventions - the last one was what gave me the most evidence, I personally oversaw the second day after lunch counting money session (this was still 3 day conventions) and we counted over $10,000, a quick deduction is that you collected more than $15-20k at that point. Day 3 they told us we had collected $8000 and were short, the CO then sent a ‘bill’ to the congregation for the expenses through the elders.
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  WTS NEW USE OF TECHNOLOGICAL, SATELLITE ACCESS

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://freshangleng.com/34262/how-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witnesses-are-making-content-available-to-people-with-limited-or-no-internet-access .

  satellite and others for those who cannot access internet!

  spread the word (ha).

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  Anony Mous

  @listener: then why do they lie about the cost and not simply say the program costs are $$. Everything in WTBTS world has a price tag and the congregations are forced to donate to a goal before getting what they want. You want a Kingdom Hall, better raise the amount of money it costs from the congregation to build it or you get nothing and then you get as a congregation practically a 15 year loan to pay off after which they’ll sell the property from under them and tell you to raise more money. I have the branch price lists for lecterns, audio equipment etc from when I was running the local building committee, and all of them, together with cars are JW or WTBTS owned businesses and they are marked up significantly.
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  WTS NEW USE OF TECHNOLOGICAL, SATELLITE ACCESS

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://freshangleng.com/34262/how-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witnesses-are-making-content-available-to-people-with-limited-or-no-internet-access .

  satellite and others for those who cannot access internet!

  spread the word (ha).

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  Anony Mous

  https://www.jw.org/en/library/series/how-your-donations-are-used/A-Small-Box-That-Delivers-Spiritual-Food/
  

  $75 for a wireless router that costs $33 on Amazon (incl free shipping)

  https://a.co/d/32kIElM

  A $4 monthly subscription for a USB stick with “spiritual food” that costs $1.42 per 100 when branded.

  Oh, and the software they use is free (OpenWRT), I use other models from this brand myself at home.

  And from their website, they had sold a few thousand in 2020, this must be a great revenue stream.
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  What is the monthly stipend that the bethelites receive every month?

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is the monthly stipend that the bethelites receive every month?

  does any one has an actual number?

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  Anony Mous

  So about a decade ago I know it was about $100 for a “young” bethelite, and they got allowances for travel and clothing. Married and people that had been there for long times, they have a system of overseers etc got more.

  There was great emphasis from the branch that the congregation assigned would be supporting their travel as well, which off course was not give it to the bethelite but send it as part of world wide work.
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  What is the Evidence for a Common Ancestor for Eukaryotic and Prokaryotic Cells?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  prokaryotes.

  eukaryotes.

  lysosomes and centrosomes are present.

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  Anony Mous

  So you post a picture of extension cords that were recently mathematically proven will entangle themselves through random interactions and then claim the same cannot be done in nature.

  Anyone knows complexity arises from simple rules, play any game in history, with as few simple rules like Go and the possibilities are literally endless.

  That being said, what is the evidence: all the simpler single and multi-cell organism you ignored. This is like textbook evolutionary science, high school or first year college textbooks should cover this topic. There are plenty of evidence of simpler life forms both modern and fossilized at the geological scales.
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  Any news on JWs in the Ukraine?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the war in the ukraine has been going on for 2+ years now, yet very little has been put forth by the org on how the witnesses are doing there.

  especially of interest would be just how the org has implemented their relatively new 'alternative service is ok' policy in lieu of real military service in a place where warfare is actually occurring.

  yet nothing is forthcoming from the gb on this matter, or any other issues, really.. does anyone know what's been going on the regarding the witnesses there?.

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  Anony Mous

  @road: and when we contemplated draft dodging we were going to be DFed because it was illegal and illegal stuff makes you a bad witness, better sit in jail. How the times have changed, I heard from someone else they started appointing illegal immigrants as ministerial servants and they carry mikes as well.